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- From: grantp@usa.pipeline.com(Pete)
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- Subject: Re: can you help me learn programming ?
- Date: 28 Jan 1996 14:57:43 GMT
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- On Jan 28, 1996 11:04:48 in article <Re: can you help me learn programming
- ?>, 'Dion Barrier <viper@europa.com>' wrote:
-
-
- >You are absolutely right Pascal isn't that great to learn on. Although I
- have
- >never
- >programmed in Pascal I know for a fact that no one in the real world of
- >programming
- >want Pascal programmers they want C++ or C programmers. C is a really
- easy
- >language
- >to learn if you have the right teacher/book to learn from.
- >
-
- I think the folks at comp.lang.pascal.delphi might have some opposing
- viewpoints to express.
-
- Dion admits that he has never programmed in Pascal, yet knows
- that "it isn't that great to learn on". Credibility??
-
- While it's true that there are many more C/C++ positions being
- offered than Pascal, ads for Delphi developers have been
- showing up in newspapers and on the net in increasing numbers.
- Dion may not have seen ads for Pascal developers, but that
- doesn't mean there aren't any.
-
- BTW:
- I've done a small amount of development with Delphi, and as
- soon as the 32-bit version arrives, I will begin a substantial Delphi
- development effort for a US Government agency. I have
- looked at the competitors; VB, PB, etc., and IMO, Delphi is
- superior to them in many (most?) respects. The GUI
- development is at least as rapid as with its competitors, and
- when it comes to "hard-core" programming, Delphi's "extended"
- Pascal language offers support unequalled by its competitors.
- (I'm not including the C++ based systems as Delphi's competition
- -- but that's just my viewpoint. We've had some Delphi vs. C++
- threads already.)
-
- The bottom line: C++ and Pascal are computer languages
- with strong and weak points. Considering the language aspect
- alone (no GUI develoment tools), C++ has more strong and less
- weak points. But that doesn't mean that Pascal is junk. Also,
- there probably aren't many "pure" Pascal compiler systems
- around any more. Delphi is based on Pascal, but the language
- is substantially extended from that of Wirth's original spec.
-
- IMHO, Pascal is an excellent teaching language. I'm not
- keen on recommending C++ as the first language to the
- masses, although some of the brighter students can handle
- it. Pascal offers many advantages over Basic without
- straining the student in learning the syntax, as with C++.
- A good compromise. And it's a "real" language.
-
- --
- Pete Grant
- Kalevi, Inc.
- Object Oriented Software Development
-